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Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 18:51:00 - [1] Cannot +rep this enough Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:05:00 - [2] Originally by: mostlyharmlesss I will go out of my way, and make a serious goon post. Please, read what he is saying and don't focus on the Alliance/Corp. I know, even the most hated enemies agree on most of the points that he is writing, so please, vote with your brain, and not because of a "Free tengu" The word "enemies" can refer to several different groups in this context. While it is true that people who are identified as 'enemies' via the in-game standings mechanic can probably agree on the principles that are being espoused here, those enemies all represent the same overarching group of 0.0 space dwellers. Those guys are often seen as 'enemies' to the people who live in Empire space, because there is a perception among Empire-dwellers that mechanics put into place that involve 0.0 space in a good or indifferent way will somehow result in a negative backlash for them. You can see this in the propositions to remove Jump Bridges and to penalize 0.0 space holding entities. These suggestions come from people who believe, for better or worse, that mechanics which benefit 0.0 space dwellers are a direct detriment to the fun and opportunities available to Empire-dwellers. This case of the "have-nots" wanting to take things away from the "haves," in regards to 0.0 space, will be a major obstacle to overcome in winning the hearts of many players. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:59:00 - [3] Originally by: Midi Messiah Originally by: Roc Wieler As a CSM 6 candidate, I can only speak for myself. I've promised nothing. I've worked with CCP before. I know what types of obstacles may exist to be overcome. My platform has been of integrity, a commitment to maintain open communication between CCP, CSM and players, and make sure that at the very least, the concerns of New Eden are heard. I'm not lying to you. Originally by: Roc Wieler's blog I asked my own alliance, UshraÆKhan, to explain it to me. We spoke about logistical advantages for fleet activity, how easy JBN make it to trap an enemy fleet, or escape from one. Low upkeep costs, *they donÆt appear on the overview, etc, etc. There are a lot of reasons why nullsec alliances love jump bridges, thatÆs for sure. Liar or just dumb? This guy just inadvertently served as a perfect example of how people who don't hold 0.0 space have no idea what they're talking about in regards to it. Apparently both he, and his entire alliance believes incorrect information about this topic. If not a single person in his entire alliance knew or could be bothered to google up the right information about this topic, then how clueless might he be concerning a breadth of other topics? Two Shots Goonwaffe*
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 20:35:00 - [4] Originally by: Fix Lag Voter with 3 accounts checking in vOv P.S. call out some idiot who's running on a BS platform and publicly humiliate him, please. kthanx. That literally happened just a few posts before yours. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 21:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Forever A Clone The idea that anyone in eve (bar goons) would trust someone who lauds himself as a liar in every aspect of his life is laughable. The idea that anyone in eve (bar goons, or other groups of people who come here from some other community) would trust anyone else in eve is laughable. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.26 05:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Profiteering Edited by: Profiteering on 26/02/2011 05:14:51 Edited by: Profiteering on 26/02/2011 05:14:33 Funny how many people dont realise that anyone can be lying, even this guy. Usually someone who says he isnt lying may well be lying to just get votes his way. Remember a lawyer is not a leader. The man can snap his fingers and say "Hey guys, this thing over here sounds like it might be fun; go do it if you feel like it," and thereby consistently summon up a fleet of a thousand people eager to go die horribly. Show me another leader who can do that without a bunch of threats, vapid CALL TO ARMS!!!!! posts, and general freaking out about Internet space ships. For that matter, show me a leader who can do it with those things. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.26 18:23:00 - [7] Originally by: RAW23 So, don't expect that the Mittani will act in what you think are your interests if you vote for him. Expect, rather, to be told what is in your interest, whether you like it or not. How exactly is this any different from any other candidate? Candidate X who wants to 'fix blasters' is going to support fixing blasters and shoot down other ideas as "wastes of time" if they are proposed, because people are petty. Candidate Y who wants to remove Level 4 missions from high-security space is going to similarly cut down other peoples' ideas and project his own as 'the best'. Candidate Z who wants to disperse 0.0 power blocs is going to oppose anything raised by the 0.0 power blocs in favor of his ideas. What you have said about The Mittaniùthat he is going to act in his perceived best interest at the potential expense of everyone else'sùis an accurate description of how most human beings on this planet act every day. What you seem to balk at is the fact that The Mittani openly admits to being a manipulative bastard who is willing to try to get his way once he is in a position to do so, rather than mouthing a bunch of empty platitudes about how he's not going to do that. Everyone has an agenda. Most people try to hide it, or flower it up with nice words about the importance of the Every Man. If your problem with The Mittani is that he has an agenda, then don't vote for himùor for anyone else in the CSM race. If your problem with The Mittani is that he admits to having an agenda, then help yourself to a sobering dose of reality: ~~everyone has an agenda~~ The Mittani loves you, and has your best interests at heart. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.26 23:29:00 - [8] Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou On a more serious note, This CSM campaign is more watertight than the others. The Mittani has been high up in Goonswarm for years and knows alot about running sections, and now all, of the alliance. He also has real world experience of an intellectually demanding job that requires knowing : How to Lie, How to talk, How to convince people his points by using evidence. He also has an adorable puppy, a house he bought WITH CASH, has retired young and so can devote much neckbeard time to Internet Spaceships, looks like 'Dane Cook with down's syndrome', and flies A SABRE. This man is clearly the man for you for the CSM chair. He also LARPs and stuff He also makes good posts. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 17:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Pisander Finally I'd like to state that it is quite hypocritical to call anyone a hypocrite and liar when you are head of an alliance that allows lying and scamming. By your very existence as head of Goonswarm you too are a hypocrite and a liar because you allow it to be done by your members. "Recruitment scam by Goons" It's all over the forums. As leader it goes to your character as well. So don't call others hypocrites and liars. the buck stops at the top buddy. If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to go to the forums before being scammed, then perhaps they might have been better prepared. If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to go to eve-search or google before being scammed, then perhaps they might have been better prepared. If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to do any kind of research about their prospective new alliance/corporation, then perhaps they might have been better prepared. If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to read our alliance diplomat's in-game description, then perhaps they might have been better prepared. If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to visit to our website, then perhaps they might have been better prepared. EVE Search - Goonswarm Recruitment EVE Search - Goonwaffe Recruitment EVE Online - Goonswarm Federation EVE Online - Vile Rat Google - Goonswarm Recruitment Google - Goonwaffe Recruitment Goonfleet Wiki - Joining Goonswarm All of the above links are publicly viewable by anyone who looks. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 17:40:00 - [10] Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou Edited by: ImmaSplodeYou on 27/02/2011 17:38:04 The alliance itself is actually very open about not tolerating scamming by its directors, recruiters or ceos. You can't say the entire alliance are scammers because a few members decide to take some idiots for a ride to get carrier killmails and a few mil ISK. That's like saying I'm a murderer because someone was murdered by someone from my town Your town killed my family and raped my dog. Two Shots Goonwaffe

Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.28 18:25:00 - [11] How can you accuse Mittens of being hateful? Have you not seen his puppy? Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.28 20:00:00 - [12] You do realize that someone who throws 'hissy fits' would be irreverently mocked by goons, and that as a result that can't possibly describe The Mittani. Right? Or do you have no idea who goons are, outside of "some mean guys who scam people," in EVE Online, the popular Internet space ship game? Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.02 01:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Enriana Shli**n The Mittani is a spineless confused nerd. His tactic is to present himself as a strong leader when in fact he is not at all. The fact that he is leading goons atm says something about the state of goons, not The Mittani's abilities. Gone are the romantic notions of ** the system. What goons have now is a calculating disturbed post-teen snake, who confuses napping the entirety of eve with being rational in a broken game. This is a nerd who confessed there are exquisite pleasures to be had in griefing people out of this game. People who are obviously hilariously ***ed ofc. Flattery will get you nowhere, I have LARPing and a puppy to fill the void that you just can't hit right. Two Shots Goonwaffe*
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.02 17:55:00 - [14] Look at this guy trying to get us to be offended by our own stupidity. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.02 19:04:00 - [15] What gain do you see someone getting out of being in the CSM other than Internet space ship celebrity status? Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.02 21:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Thimian this seems like only a measure to get voted up for, even if i think i agree with him. What other possible reason would one announce one's candidacy for an election, if not to draw attention to it and garner votes? Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.03 15:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Scatim Helicon Originally by: Rhedea Do you believe that forming an coalition between alliances be like a wardec and be paid for. I've read posts on this subject and was wondering if you had any thoughts on this. How would that be enforced, exactly? If two alliances informally agree to not shoot each other, are CCP supposed to sneak a GM into Teamspeak to monitor which targets are being called? I would imagine he wants people to have to pay upkeep for blue standings, in which case red would become the new blue. If it cost to have standings at all, then all of the northern coalition alliances would simply disband and their corporations join Morsus Mihi (and if population numbers mandated, Morsus Mihi 2, Morsus Mihi 3, etc). The problem with trying to get players to suffer a negative thing is that players affected by the new negative thing will do their best to avoid it. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.06 17:13:00 - [18] I don't see any reason goons would flock to attack you for that post. But the answer to your question is simple: we don't like that guy because he's not our guy. The same way bloc/party voters in real life blindly support their side's candidate, people in EVE blindly support their side's candidate. And you know what that means? That means that the other guy's candidate is an idiot, a bigot, a pedophile, and drowns kittens in his spare time. Politics is politics. Two Shots Goonwaffe

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